Not quite Graybeards! The Icon Garden is the unofficial podcast of the Ars Technica Macintoshian Achaia forum. Featuring topics like retro Apple, Mac Nerdery, and iOS shenanigans.



Problem Solver by day, problem maker by night, Dan (kefkafloyd) has been posting on the Mac Ach for over sixteen years. Dan has experience as a working graphic designer and QA professional. He enjoys photography, plane watching, and wasting time on Netflix.



Jake (Otto Pilot) has been on the Ach since 2005, An attorney by education, he spends his days working for the government, flying places as much as he can in his off time. He sometimes puts on a uniform for the Air Force reserves.